Unselfing: Philosophy of Psychedelics
Chris Letheby
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Guest Introduction
In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Chris Letheby: a philosopher of cognitive science who focuses on psychedelic experience & its implications for our understanding of consciousness.
Chris is a Lecturer in Philosophy at the University of Western Australia and a Postdoctoral Researcher at the University of Adelaide. He has a soon-to-be-published book: Philosophy of Psychedelics.
Along with Philip Gerrans, Chris is behind one of the most interesting theories of what the self is, a theory that explains why the sensation of being a 'self' arises in consciousness, which they call the "predictive self-binding account".
His work goes on to study how high-dose psychedelic experiences disrupt this model of self-consciousness, and weaves the implications into a broader project he calls Naturalizing Spirituality.
Our conversation follows three main topics:
- What is the predictive self-binding account of self consciousness?
- How do predictive processing and cognitive binding work together to produce the sensation of being a self?
- What are the different dimensions of self-consciousness?
- How do psychedelics disrupt self-consciousness?
- What is "unselfing"?
- How do psychedelics change the possibility space of our experience?
- What can these psychedelic experiences that alter our self-consciousness tell us about the prospects of a naturalized spirituality suited for the 21st century?
This was such a fun conversation, & I find Chris' work absolutely brilliant. Cannot wait to see his work evolve.
Enjoy!
Conversation Topics
- The predictive self-binding account of self-consciousness
- How predictive processing and cognitive binding produce the sensation of selfhood
- Different dimensions of self-consciousness
- Psychedelic disruption of self-consciousness
- The concept of "unselfing"
- How psychedelics alter our experiential possibility space
- Implications for naturalized spirituality in the 21st century
Time Map
Part 1: Self-models & predictive self-binding theory
- 13:20 – What constitutes a self-model and representationalist theory of consciousness
- 22:00 – Predictive processing mechanics
- 27:50 – Transparency/opacity in self-models
- 33:30 – Default Mode Network vs. Salience Network
Part 2: Psychedelics & self-model unbinding
- 37:40 – Neurochemistry of psychedelics
- 39:30 – "Unselfing" defined
- 43:40 – Relation to Robin Carhart-Harris' REBUS model
- 52:20 – Applications to Mark Fisher's capitalist realism
- 61:40 – Thomas Metzinger's functional rigidity
Part 3: Naturalizing spirituality
- 1:03:30 – Naturalizing spirituality
- 1:17:30 – Moving from value-neutral science to normative consciousness questions
- 1:21:00 – Epistemic status of psychedelic experience
- 1:30:50 – Psychological flexibility value
Links from the Conversation
- Chris Letheby's Website
- Chris's Twitter
- Chris's forthcoming book
- Aeon essay
- Predictive self-binding paper
- Naturalizing spirituality paper
- The Integrative Self (Humphreys & Sui)
- Being No One by Thomas Metzinger
- Spirituality for Naturalists by Jerome Stone